oftenly confused with hillary rodham clinton. but not politically. let me talk about this, because you're on the front all the time fighting for same-sex rights and gay rights generally. isn't it odd that in a country where we have begun to shift dramatically in that action towards more than acceptance, almost warm acceptance, it's much more positive, okay, we'll go along with that. at the same time we still have a country that still seems to defend gun rights almost to the last man in so many communities. are they different communities? >> i think so. there is a whole range of issues, you know, that we could talk about from reproductive rights to climate change. but i think when it comes to same-sex marriage, we talked earlier about illinois which is poised to be the next state to vote in favor, i think the trajectory both in terms of public sentiment. when i started at hrc, it was 33% of the american people, now it's 43, 53. it will be 60% before long. you have the chairman of the republican party of illinois coming out in favor of this vote, which